Comments on: Tapping the Brain’s Electric Music http://www.scienceline.org/2008/03/26/video-intagliata-brainmusic/ The Shortest Distance Between You and Science Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:01:23 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: K. http://www.scienceline.org/2008/03/26/video-intagliata-brainmusic/comment-page-1/#comment-3232 K. Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:31:29 +0000 http://scienceline.org/2008/03/26/video-intagliata-brainmusic/#comment-3232 Oh, dear Dave. I will read the articles that you proposed in this litle meeting point into a relative big net. I've visited in three times places that at first time offers to you an every time incrementing atraction and curiosity acomplained with people that seems like your servients that are every time ready to satisfate your egoical dependences that are realy sweet. And all with an objective to brings you to that place. I began to investigate after live an horrible experience of in few seconds lose all the energy from every margin of frequency levels, of my physycal body, then psyqical, emotional, instintive, sensitive. The result of this fenomen generates an terrible fear, horror. You understand what I mean, and is this deep terror is the mistake that any person manifestate because is the gate that gives the posibility to the creators of this "fucking bad compositions" to absorbe all the energy of an inconcient person. But I als know that is temporal for booth parts. Temporal feeling of nogthing and temporal pleasure for who create the composition. Please write me how before its possible, is necesary open a big project in a litle posibility. Remember that is wery dangerous tool, for many people who are not concient the deep that this knowlege can arrive for others and for thereselves. Ver big bad is to go farer in subconcient energy movements than the concience can manipulate and to create circles that are easly detecteble from part of people who understand how to work with there rsonanses and relativities. So in case of helping its posible same perfectly like to manipulate. Please write me, at my mail, I think we need to meet maybe you can help me to solve little details and I'll be very pleased to help you if there are something that I can. My batery is finishing "of laptop" I have to send this before loose this message. I wait your notices, and please if we can speak in private to syncronize and determine if our objectives are acording in something, I hope so. Thank you. K. gatolandi2@gmail.com Oh, dear Dave. I will read the articles that you proposed in this litle meeting point into a relative big net. I’ve visited in three times places that at first time offers to you an every time incrementing atraction and curiosity acomplained with people that seems like your servients that are every time ready to satisfate your egoical dependences that are realy sweet. And all with an objective to brings you to that place. I began to investigate after live an horrible experience of in few seconds lose all the energy from every margin of frequency levels, of my physycal body, then psyqical, emotional, instintive, sensitive. The result of this fenomen generates an terrible fear, horror. You understand what I mean, and is this deep terror is the mistake that any person manifestate because is the gate that gives the posibility to the creators of this “fucking bad compositions” to absorbe all the energy of an inconcient person. But I als know that is temporal for booth parts. Temporal feeling of nogthing and temporal pleasure for who create the composition. Please write me how before its possible, is necesary open a big project in a litle posibility. Remember that is wery dangerous tool, for many people who are not concient the deep that this knowlege can arrive for others and for thereselves. Ver big bad is to go farer in subconcient energy movements than the concience can manipulate and to create circles that are easly detecteble from part of people who understand how to work with there rsonanses and relativities. So in case of helping its posible same perfectly like to manipulate.

Please write me, at my mail, I think we need to meet maybe you can help me to solve little details and I’ll be very pleased to help you if there are something that I can.

My batery is finishing “of laptop” I have to send this before loose this message.

I wait your notices, and please if we can speak in private to syncronize and determine if our objectives are acording in something, I hope so.

Thank you.

K.

gatolandi2@gmail.com

]]> By: dave soldier / sulzer http://www.scienceline.org/2008/03/26/video-intagliata-brainmusic/comment-page-1/#comment-1816 dave soldier / sulzer Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:37:03 +0000 http://scienceline.org/2008/03/26/video-intagliata-brainmusic/#comment-1816 hi JS We haven't yet, but just as you suggest, we should get slow adagio events (from one every two seconds up to three a second, known as "delta wave") during normal sleep, and much faster and more intricate events during REM. In the meantime, you can hear a composition by brainwaves that laughter produces - has some nice effects depending where you are in your cortex- while I was reading Stephen Colbert's book: I've put that piece and a couple of others at http://davesoldier.com/experimental.html#EEG hi JS

We haven’t yet, but just as you suggest, we should get slow adagio events (from one every two seconds up to three a second, known as “delta wave”) during normal sleep, and much faster and more intricate events during REM. In the meantime, you can hear a composition by brainwaves that laughter produces – has some nice effects depending where you are in your cortex- while I was reading Stephen Colbert’s book: I’ve put that piece and a couple of others at

http://davesoldier.com/experimental.html#EEG

]]> By: Dr. J. Semo http://www.scienceline.org/2008/03/26/video-intagliata-brainmusic/comment-page-1/#comment-1813 Dr. J. Semo Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:44:54 +0000 http://scienceline.org/2008/03/26/video-intagliata-brainmusic/#comment-1813 Dear Prof. Soldier Have you checked the difference in the music generated by the brain between nREM and REM sleep? Thank you for your reply JS PS Could it be a Bach versus an Eric Clapton? Dear Prof. Soldier

Have you checked the difference in the music generated by the brain between nREM and REM sleep?

Thank you for your reply

JS

PS Could it be a Bach versus an Eric Clapton?

]]> By: dave soldier / sulzer http://www.scienceline.org/2008/03/26/video-intagliata-brainmusic/comment-page-1/#comment-1552 dave soldier / sulzer Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:44:53 +0000 http://scienceline.org/2008/03/26/video-intagliata-brainmusic/#comment-1552 Haydn, good point. I would say we have the possibility for both "prosthetic" EEG music where you try to operate the EEG is an instrument, for example by thinking of moving your arm or pinching yourself or shutting your eyes (classic move to increase alpha wave amplitude) and "unconscious" music where you don't control the sounds on purpose. I'll put examples of both on my website. In the "unconscious" approach, I guess it is shares some aspects to playing a CD, - in both cases you decide if you are going to initiate music or not - which I'm not clear is the same as whether it is music or not, or making music or not. The best way to test if it is music could be an "Adapted Turing Test" where you play it for listeners who don't know what it is and ask them if it is music or not. I wrote an article about these points, "Eine Kleine Nachtmusik" that you can download from http://davesoldier.com/writing.html Seems that the unconscious has now joined malevolent forces with kids and animals. Haydn, good point.

I would say we have the possibility for both “prosthetic” EEG music where you try to operate the EEG is an instrument, for example by thinking of moving your arm or pinching yourself or shutting your eyes (classic move to increase alpha wave amplitude) and “unconscious” music where you don’t control the sounds on purpose. I’ll put examples of both on my website. In the “unconscious” approach, I guess it is shares some aspects to playing a CD, – in both cases you decide if you are going to initiate music or not – which I’m not clear is the same as whether it is music or not, or making music or not.

The best way to test if it is music could be an “Adapted Turing Test” where you play it for listeners who don’t know what it is and ask them if it is music or not.

I wrote an article about these points, “Eine Kleine Nachtmusik” that you can download from http://davesoldier.com/writing.html
Seems that the unconscious has now joined malevolent forces with kids and animals.

]]> By: Haydn http://www.scienceline.org/2008/03/26/video-intagliata-brainmusic/comment-page-1/#comment-1550 Haydn Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:23:56 +0000 http://scienceline.org/2008/03/26/video-intagliata-brainmusic/#comment-1550 I find it very interesting that Dr. Sulzer views our brain activity in a musical context, and that one can compose unconsciously. It just seems that these unconscious events are independent of creativity and more importantly intention. my question is then, without these elements, can we label this as composition or even music? Your thoughts? I find it very interesting that Dr. Sulzer views our brain activity in a musical context, and that one can compose unconsciously. It just seems that these unconscious events are independent of creativity and more importantly intention. my question is then, without these elements, can we label this as composition or even music? Your thoughts?

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