Comments on: We Can Stop Global Warming Today

By: henrylow

henrylow — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 06:11:14 +0000

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By: ccpo

ccpo — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:43:57 +0000

C. B. Richardson,

Man, am I tired of claptrap dressed up as intelligent discussion. How many logical fallacies can you fit into one article thread?

1. Science isn’t settled.

In 2004, Naomi Oreskes did a literature review of climate science published. After randomly selecting 1000 articles, what did she find? 1000 articles that were either neutral or supported the hypothesis. 1,000:1.

But, you’re right, there’s no consensus.

2. Every poll of climate scientists ends up with something on the order of 97% supporting the hypothesis.

3. Since that 2004 review, there has not been even one scientific study undermining the hypothesis that passed peer review, publishing, and post-publishing critique without being shown to be significantly flawed. And those that have come closest haven’t come close to denying anthropogenic warming, but have tried to prove things like it’s due to clouds (conclusively debunked) or the suns output (conclusively debunked) or temps in the troposphere (deeply flawed paper.)

Great output from denialists, eh?

4. Worse, we know now for a fact what we always already knew: Big Business think tanks were lying about the science being flawed. A NYT recently published an internal memo (yes, the actual memo) from, I believe, the Global Climate Council (if ever there was a name with a greater lie, I don’t know what it was), scientists telling them the science could not be denied. Yet, they continued to lie for a time, then they quietly disbanded. They have yet to put out anything like a strong statement about lying and the fact they knew they were lying. They lied enough, loudly enough, long enough to convince gullible people like you that their lies were truth.

5. Watch “The American Denial of Global Warming.” Read “Smoke and Mirrors” from the Union of Concerned Scientists. Read that NYT article.

Or, you can just look out your window and watch the ice melt in the Arctic, Antarctic and Greenland; watch animals and plants migrating to cooler places; watch those animals and plants get out of sync with each other; watch the oceans acidify; watch the Jet Stream move north (and south) year after year; watch the methane seep out of the permafrost and ocean floor; watch methane and CO2 increase in the atmosphere; note that we are further away from the sun than we were 2,000 years ago, but significantly warmer…

You’ve been lied to and duped. Think.

By: Jose

Jose — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:50:43 +0000

It is pure vanity that makes someone think they’re going to stop global climate change. Climate cycles happen with or without the human ants crawling around on the earth’s surface.

The only real possibility is that governments are covering up the climate change cycles by keeping people preoccupied with carbon credits/taxes.

Go with the flow on this one, there is nothing you can do about it except plan. Europe is going to be frozen tundra. If you’re in the US I suggest purchasing property in warm places like Presidio, Texas.

When (not if) the earth tumbles into the next ice age, places like Presidio, Texas will have nice weather for about 900 years.

By: C. Bruce Richardson Jr.

C. Bruce Richardson Jr. — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:27:43 +0000

Josiah, there is a slight chance that the AGW hypothesis will turn out to be correct. More and more it is looking otherwise. At this point it appears to be based on “you can trust me I’m a scientist” evidence rather than hard objective science. There is a much better chance that efforts to “combat global warming” will be expensive and pointless. There is a much better chance that those mostly well-intended efforts will seriously damage our economy to the detriment of our kids. Those of us who are skeptical of the AGW claims are only arguing that there we should have more than opinion and speculation before embarking upon a potentially destructive course of action.

By: Jock Shockley

Jock Shockley — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:59:57 +0000

Josiah: There isn’t even a 1% chance of human caused global warming happening. Do some real homework on the science behind this argument, don’t just sit back and make stupid and irrelevant “what ifs”.
It is well past time this scam was blown open so we can do some useful research and find out what really drives our constantly changing climate, and maybe even devote some time to managing our real environment.

By: Josiah

Josiah — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:28:37 +0000

Not all is black and white -Even if there were only a 10% chance that human caused global warming is really happening, would you bet your kids on it?

By: John

John — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:40:47 +0000

It really is the worst type of academic filth.. Reality hijacked by politics.. With all the people in school knowing full well “conform or be cast out” are you one of us or one of them? Your future depends on your answer..

Teachers including politics in the “tell them what they wanna hear suck up” for the benifit of doubt when their papers are getting marked.. Is far worse than the scam itself.. Future leaders cant even find the non fiction part of the library.. its of no use to them.. Not good at all..

I ask you.. is there a point where the lieing will stop? or is this open ended?

By: John

John — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:22:07 +0000

Well Mr Fuck off Al Gore may lack manners but he is bang on that Climate Change due to CO2 is a scam.. You guys can talk amongst yourselves about how important you all are.. But its still a scam.. people are getting angry.. and rightly so..
When Fuck Off becomes action and not just words.. heads will roll.. Then you can talk about other more uncomfortable things..

By: Jock Shockley

Jock Shockley — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:26:43 +0000

I agree with maseral and bruce richardson. The essential fact is that the scientific evidence that was used to support the manmade global warming theory has collapsed. Some scientists still find it in their own interest to promote it however. Flannery is mking good money off these books, and seems to care little for good science.
Mr Gore runs a company (Generation Investnment Management) that “facilitates” carbon trading schemes and he is simply lobbying to protect his business interests. He established GIM with some guys from Goldman Sachs and well before he went on the road with his “message”. He will not debate global warming – ever wondered why?
Global warming and carbon trading is an unscientific scam dressed up to fool the gullible, make money, and provide a scare factor following the end of the Cold War. Credible scientists do not believe it because CO2 can NOT cause the atmosphere to heat as muuch as the scaremongers say it will tomorrow.

Do your own homework, do not believe everything you read, and do not be gullible anymore than you have to.

By: jUJU

jUJU — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:26:18 +0000

yaya

lets save world